Question:
OTA TV antenna signal very brief dropouts?
Jim
2010-12-06 17:22:29 UTC
My OTA TV antenna has very brief dropouts. The signal strength will be very high (in the upper 90s) and then suddenly will dropout, but only for a second or two. Then the signal is back to it's normal high level. This happens on one or two stations only, but happens fairly frequently. I am wondering if a signal amplifier would resolve this, and specifically if I would need a distribution amplifier or a preamplifier.

Here is a little more info on my setup. I have a high quality large directional antenna mounted on my roof. the cable I am running is over 100' long and is split at approx half way. All of the towers I typically watch stations from are between 30 and 40 miles away, and all within a couple of degrees from each other. I am not sure why a couple of these stations have totally perfect signals, while a couple others have the issues described above.

Thanks for the suggestions!
Five answers:
kg7or
2010-12-06 17:52:06 UTC
From your given information, nothing in particular comes to mind as to the likely cause. One could offer some educated guesses, but you'd need more than that to take action.



It would help to know (a) the make and model of your antenna, (b) whether you have it on a rotor, (c) the type feed line you are using (RG-59, RG-6, or something else), and (d) what channels you receive consistently okay and which ones are causing your trouble (they need to be identified either by call letters, like WXYZ, or by channel number and city, like "channel 5 in San Francisco").



At first glance, 100 feet of feedline with a mid-point splitter might suggest to some that you'd do well with a pre-amp mounted on the antenna. But not if you're frequently reading 90 on your two marginal channels. Something else is going on.



If you'll update your post with the 4 points of info cited above, it might be possible to arrive at some sort of conclusion that could help you. While you're at it, include your Zip code in order to better analyze what you should and shouldn't be receiving.

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Followup per your added details. Based on your azimuth bearings and distance from the transmitters above (all located at Garner), I'm guessing your location somewhere around Durham. Close enough for this discussion.



Now, about your 4 channels:



5.1 actually transmits on the frequency of channel 48.1 with a transmitter power of one megawatt.



11.1 transmits on 11.1 with a power of 45 kilowatts.



17.1 transmits on 17.1 with a power of 12.47 kw



50.1 transmits on 49.1 with a power of one megawatt.



There is nothing in those facts that would suggest a cause for your problem, but there is a significant curiosity: you have two channels at the same transmitter site transmitting on two adjacent channels (48 & 49) with a megawatt each. Ordinarily, the FCC doesn't assign transmitters to adjacent channels in the same general market area, and especially not at the same transmitter site. This is most unusual, but I verified it with two resources.



That *could* explain some of your difficulty with your channel 5 (48)--adjacent channel interference from 50 (on 49)--your TV tuner isn't capable of adequately separating the two. That doesn't explain why it only happens sporadically, but it's still an oddity that can cause problems with most TVs.



As for your channel 17, the only thing I see there is that it transmits fairly low power, and it's at the low end of the UHF range. Without knowing what antenna you have, one can't evaluate its UHF performance, but maybe you have one that's better on the high end than the low end of the UHF band, especially with a channel that has rather low transmitter output.



It would seem that you have a VHF-UHF antenna, since you're getting good signal on 11 (VHF).



Bottom line: maybe something odd re 5.1 (48.1) due to its powerful neighbor on 49.1, and maybe a marginal signal on 11 due to their radiated power, your antenna, or both.



What to do? You didn't identify your coaxial feedline that I mentioned above. If it's RG-59, you'll get more signal into your TVs with RG-6. I'd do that first before trying an amplifier, if it's RG-59. If you already have RG-6, then I'd consider bringing down the antenna and replacing it altogether if it isn't one of the better models, like the 2nd link below (suggested for ch. 7 - 51 up to about 50 miles).



If you are using RG-6 and do have a quality antenna (properly installed, good conditions, etc.), then and only then would I consider an amplifier. The only way to do that right is to install a pre-amp, like the Winegard AP-8700 suggested by Rick. You do *not* want any type of distribution amplifier installed somewhere down the feedline or inside the house, as suggested in another answer. That will only give you problems that you don't already have. Good luck.
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2016-11-09 08:26:14 UTC
Ota Signal Strength
anonymous
2010-12-07 07:38:57 UTC
Are there trees nearby? The chlorophyll in the leaves is a remarkable reflector of signal. A swaying tree can cause some interesting signal flux.



You might also want to look at your antenna. Replace the balun, its a cheap fix. Make sure your wire is strapped down well and not swinging. Is your coax outside in bad shape? Replace it...again not very expensive to fix. Make sure its outdoor grade too, the sun and rain will destroy indoor grade RG-6.



I would go for a preamp rather than a distribution amp. A winegard AP-8700 for example is a good one that shouldn't overload your signal. Sometimes signal overload can cause dropouts, but at the distances you state that's unlikely. The preamp should be close to the antenna, and enable the FM trap. FM interference from powerful nearby audio stations can cause erratic dropouts in certain TV stations.
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2016-06-02 10:14:23 UTC
You can use aluminum foil wrapped tight around the antenna and extend the length of them while making the signal stronger, it helps for it to be tight. It also helps to have your TV closer to a window, just like a cell phone. This can be used for the meantime. When you have a chance go out and buy a gadget at an electronics store for your TV antenna.
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2010-12-06 20:06:00 UTC
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