Question:
Is a 120Hz 1080p tv good for gaming?
anonymous
11 years ago
Ok so I'm looking for a new tv
Nothing to fancy and I want to know if a 120hz would be good enough for my gaming. With the playstation 4 coming out I'm trying to get a good tv just under 900$
Would a 120hz one do?
And will there be lag?
Ten answers:
TV Tech 1
11 years ago
Consider 3D TV sets from Samsung or Panasonic as the best choice for gaming.

240 Hz is 2nd best, and 120 Hz is a tad too slow, but adequate. Keep in mind the PS4 will be doing 3D in the future, so don't limit yourself with 120 Hz if you can afford 3D, ok?



You're going to have that TV for years...not months.
Gay
10 years ago
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RE:

Is a 120Hz 1080p tv good for gaming?

Ok so I'm looking for a new tv

Nothing to fancy and I want to know if a 120hz would be good enough for my gaming. With the playstation 4 coming out I'm trying to get a good tv just under 900$

Would a 120hz one do?

And will there be lag?
qlink_aardvark
11 years ago
"Would a 120Hz one (TV) do?"

Absolutely! The refresh rate on a console (vs. PC) game is likely to only be 30Hz, sometimes 60Hz. And the game may not be able to sustain 60Hz during scenes with lots of action or detail. See source below.

A 120Hz refresh rate is faster than the game can produce.



For active 3D, you will need 2x the refresh rate on the screen of the refresh rate you want to end up with, since the screen and active LCD shutter glasses will be alternating frames for your left and right eyes.

But even then, a 120Hz refresh rate would still be adequate for a 60Hz framerate active 3D game. Just adequate, though -- "over-rating" to 240Hz for 3D gaming wouldn't hurt.



"Will there be lag?"

That's hard to say. The refresh rate isn't the only (or even the major) cause of lag -- processing time in the TV's circuitry and how long the LCD pixels take to change states are also factors (and the manufacturer may not even publish those specs).

If the TV has a feature for interpolating frames, the faster refresh rate on the TV can make the motion smoother, BUT the extra proccessing will probably cause a lag -- so while gaming, it would be better to switch off the motion-smoothing feature if the TV has one.
gandhi
9 years ago
Good Gaming Tv
Grumpy Mac
11 years ago
1080 - since all your games come with 720 graphics - something has to up-convert each frame of video. This is the number one cause of gamer lag.



So this is a bad choice.



120 hz - better than the default of 60 hz, but cuts motion blur in half, does not eliminate it.



If your HDTV is to be used for gaming - Panasonic Plasma's in 720 is a better choice. These start about $550 on Amazon.



Panasonic also includes a "Gamer Mode" that turns OFF a lot of software enhancements to reduce gamer lag.
homles
8 years ago
120hz Tv For Gaming
Jose Cano
11 years ago
You should check on Sony's W802 model. It's one of the models with least lag response. Great picture quality by the way. No company comes close to Sony's picture quality. Pay for quality, and not for a so-so TV. Besides, think of how long you will have the TV; years to come, so don't worry about the price.
anonymous
9 years ago
It's pretty respectable, yes. Although there are better brands but if your budget only allows for Insignia, it's much much better than Haier, Westinghouse, Sylvania, Benq etc...
David
11 years ago
120Hz 11080p Tv is great for viewing high refresh rate materials. The material looks much smoother than 60hz tv's.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=as_li_qf_sp_sr_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&index=aps&keywords=%201080p%20120Hz%20HDTV%20&linkCode=as2&tag=yansp-20&linkId=NDO5MW7LQPKN6O67
Mr.No0nE
11 years ago
- I recommend Panasonic Plasma or Samsung LED.

- If the tv has gamer mode, it will turn off most things that require processing like video scaling and refresh rates (video may look bad, but you get less input lag).

- If ps4 or xbox one video games end up being 1080p, then yes you would want a 1080p so there is no video scaling (video scaling can make the picture look worse and cause more input lag).

- Higher the refresh rate, the less motion blur you get. (less motion blur means you can see fast moving objects better and the overall picture will be clear/look better). Plasma > LED > LCD.



- How do LED or LCD tv refresh rates work with the FPS of a video? (I recommend real/true 240hz refresh rate, some tv advertising may fool you by listing the fake interpolation or fake backlight scanning/dimming refresh rates).

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_inte... (Names of the new technologies for newer tv's at the link): Motion Interpolation or Motion Compensated Frame Interpolation (MCFI), is a form of video processing in which new fake frames are generated between existing ones to up the FPS of a video to reduce motion blur and/or for judder removal/judder adjustment. MCFI video processing may cause gamer input lag and/or artifacts such as the soap opera effect (may ruin the look of a video).

- Many tv's allow viewers to turn motion interpolation (MCFI) off. The tv repeats the frames a certain number of times to match the tv's refresh rate. Example; To display 24 frames per second on a tv with a 120 hz refresh rate, each frame is repeated 5 times every 24th of a second.

- But what happens if the FPS of a video does not match the refresh rate of the tv? Then you get a pulldown, a pulldown is what causes a jittery screen (aka judder) because the tv repeats the odd frames a different amount of times the tv repeats the even frames. Example; A 3:2 pulldown is post popular because it is needed to match a 24 fps video with a 60hz refresh rate tv, odd frames are repeated 3 times (12x3=36) and even frames are repated 2 times (12x2=24) and 36+24=60 FPS for a 60hz refresh rate tv.



How does Plasma tv refresh rates work with the FPS of a video?

- It will take each pixel in a frame and and repeat it a number of times based on the number of sub-field drives (SFD) the tv has with it's refresh rate. Example 1; (NTSC countries) 600hz sub-field drive/motion tv means 60hz FPS x 10 sub-fields per frame = 600hz refresh rate. Example 2; (PAL/SECAM countries) 600hz sub-field drive/motion tv means 50hz FPS x 12 sub-fields per frame = 600hz refresh rate.

- What is focused-field drive (FFD) on Neo-Plasmas? (Light switching speed = better colors and less motion blur) 2500hz focused field drive means sub-fields are virtually packed into 1/2500th of a second as a sharp impluse, creating crisp motion images even in very very fast movining images (FFD is defined as a inverse of light emission period t. 1/t = 1/0.4ms = 2,500 FFD). Regular sub-feild drives like 50 FPS x 12 sub-fields = 600 hz, light emission spreads as wide as 1 field time (1/60th sec) maximum which results in blurry images for very very fast moving images.

- Refresh rates on Plasmas work similar to LED/LCD tv's. These settings are usually automatic, but you can change them in the advanced picture settings, Example 1; 2D 24p FPS mode and choose refresh rates of 48hz/96hz or 30hz/60hz with pulldown (might use interpolation frames for pulldowns), Example 2; 3D mode and choose refresh rates of 96hz for 24 FPS or 100hz for 50 FPS or 120hz for 60 or 24 fps.ect Of course it has gamer mode or many other adjustments.



Some of the information may be outdated/wrong, but still some useful information.

- http://reviews.cnet.com/tv-buying-guide/

- http://reviews.cnet.com/3dtv-buying-guide/

- http://reviews.cnet.com/best-high-definition-tvs/ (has models and reviews + more).



- Off brands use crappy/cheap and breakble electronics. For gamers I recommend the tv has at least duo/quad processores and gamer mode (gamer mode turns off stuff that requires processing/cpu power like upscaling/downscalling resolutions and/or interpolation/reapting frames for refresh rates.ect). TV's do have a input lag specification.

- HD-TV viewing distance calculations: http://isthisretina.com/ OR http://www.thx.com/consumer/home-entertainment/home-theater/hdtv-set-up/ OR http://www.sony-asia.com/support/faq/47537 OR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimum_HDTV_viewing_distance


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